American Airlines fined $15K after mom of 3 was ‘violently’ sucked into plane’s engine on New Year’s Eve

The problem seems to be they didn't use cartoons to illustrate the dangers involved with Jet engines.

They allow some to walk on the ramp without proper supervision and got to close to an engine.. the only way that could have happened is if the ramp crew was not watching or paying attention.

It would be interesting to know how long she had held the job. Was she a brand new employee trying to show some ambition by getting that door open quickly? Or a seasoned veteran who should have known better??

I agree with Billy. The airline pilots had a little difficulty and didn't shut it down in a timely matter as usual. Sounds like the ground crew lady was approaching the plane based on time and didn't pay attention to the plane with head phones on. However, OSHA knows best, right? Always favoring the individual. They love lawsuits that's pending. She let that safety meeting go in one ear and out the other.

Yes she did that was proven, however, like many OSHA regulations once come to mind with a good friend who oversees a very large Healthcare system across the U.S., for safety and security. One of the forklift drivers who had been written up 2 times for unsafe acts drove off the dock. OSHA comes along and looks at the training records. The manager of that Hospital had carefully documented 40 hours of training on proper forklift techniques. OSHA says: He should have gotten 41 hours of training....the Healthcare paid $200,000 fine.

Yes, she did that was proven, however, like many OSHA regulations once come to mind with a good friend who oversees a very large Healthcare system across the U.S., for safety and security. One of the forklift drivers who had been written up 2 times for unsafe acts drove off the dock. OSHA comes along and looks at the training records. The manager of that Hospital had carefully documented 40 hours of training on proper forklift techniques. OSHA says: He should have gotten 41 hours of training....the Healthcare paid $200,000 fine.

Totally agree. Just another sensationalized heading to catch your attention. At first, it makes you think she was a passenger.

Didn't have to, you did for them.

Yet the media and social justice warriors will always make race the prominent fact in any slight or injury caused - as long as it is against people of European descent.

The beacon was on. That is the training and the policy. Pretty damned simple - and if someone cannot follow that, then they don't even have any business manipulating kitchen knives.

A fine is imposed to correct something that was done incorrectly. Were the briefings substandard or presented improperly? Otherwise, no real reason to impose a fine.

Actually I think it is a surprisingly large fine against a party who was not responsible for causing the consequences.

It also sets a very dangerous precedent - and could quite possibly kick open the door for things like holding gun manufacturers liable for crimes committed by individuals with their products (bare with me here a moment...)

The problem is that it will not stop there. Ford will be held liable when Joe.Schmoe is 3 sheets to the wind OR when Sexy.Sally is TikkyTocking her narcissistic selfieness - each while driving their Explorer down the road and ends up killing someone.

To bring this fully back around once it continues down the slope - it also eventually means that not only is just the airline going to be fined and/or held responsible in such an instance - but that a civil case for wrongful death could be opened against the pilot individually - as the engines were under his control, and it will cost him his career. On top of that - GE or RR will be on the hook as well because they made those big, round, loud, spinny things. Think it's not possible? With something like having happened - trust me when I say that it is.

I bet there are injury lawyers absolutely salivating over the potentials this action is going to open up for the future.

That is only to cover the legalities of the situation. Next the family will bring a civil suit and claim billions in reparation.

Thats surprising stupid that any ground crew member would be so stupid letting it happen. But nothing new when people are around aircraft. Way before jet engines sucked people prop planes were have there propellers walked into. Its on the employer to train all ground crew about hazards, BUT having some follow instructions is another thing they cannot control only by either disciplinary action or outright firing them.

The victim was African-American.

I’m thinking it would bd pretty fast and relatively pain free. There are worse ways to die on the job but I would perfer everyone go home healthy.

Said the same thing above & was dinged for it

with the half empty mickey in her cover-alls

Search for "who receives the money from OSHA fines" in Google:
"...all collected fines are sent directly to the U.S. Treasury's general fund..."

We all make mistakes. We just don't expect other people to pay for them or take the blame when it is our own damned fault.

Disturbing, but not really surprising.

How was this AA's fault exactly?

Fines are generally not imposed to address compensation. That is what the (assumed) upcoming civil court proceeding will be about. Fines are supposed to be for "behavior modification"; so perhaps your outrage should be "$15k won't modify AAs behavior". You can thank me later for correcting your flawed, but apparently well meaning thought process ;-)

You're contradicting yourself. Why would one entity have to pay for an entirely different entity's failure to comply with operational safety protocols?

That low fine indicates to me the FAA knew the airline did nothing wrong but had to make a token gesture because she was "a mom of three". But the fact is, she was at fault and had been briefed and trained.

I think you need to try reading the whole story and the investigative report.