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FAA investigates potential failure of elevator controls on Allegiant flight

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The failure or malfunction occurred during the takeoff roll and caused the nose of the MD-83 to lift prematurely. (www.bloomberg.com) More...

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edgeair
edgeair 1
This is scary, this seems like another ValuJet in the making, Allegiant will continue on their negligent race to the bottom and will go until an aircraft crashes and kills 100+ people in the process.
andyc852
Certainly hope this does not happen. I would not fly them at any price, but what concerns me is that this sounds very much like the Alaska crash related to jack screws operating the elevators.
I wonder if they were below V1 or decided to abort after V1 despite their training. That may have saved the day.
I am sure that will draw lots of comments and opinions.
preacher1
preacher1 1
I personally think that it is a testament to the airframe manufacturer that they are still flying. They are trying to keep up on maintenance, it seems, but all that is in their fleet is well used, with probably an MEL string that is constant causing pilot problems as well. That said, if they had Delta Tech Ops maintaining their fleet, It might be different but they don't and as one poster says above, it is my fear that they will scatter one across the landscape somewhere and kill a bunch of folks. People are asking for it though. They accept all this for a cheap ride.
andyc852
Thanks Preacher. Any observations about my V1 comment?. I would be interested to hear
preacher1
preacher1 1
Andy: that is a loaded question that you pretty much have to leave to the pointey end crew. V1 for the dog is about 135/140 at MTOW but everything would have to be taken into consideration as hardly anything goes off at max weight. That said, the story says he aborted at 138. He was flyable. It might have been better to go on, but then he could have just nosed over with no control. Crapshoot; just one of them things you got to be there and feel; all else would be second guess. To boot, my last Mad Dog trip was a DFW-ATL turn as a reserve fill in the Saturday before AA filed bankruptcy on Monday.
andyc852
Thanks Preacher. Were you Delta or AA? I have a good friend who is at Delta Tech Ops and knew several of their pilots from years past. With an elevator issue as briefly described I would vote for an abort although I understand this is not the training. I would rather be down here wishing I was up there rather than the other way around!
I hope your health continues to improve. I enjoy your input. Thanks
preacher1
preacher1 1
At that time, I had retired and was doing fill in for Eagle, then that turn came up that Saturday and I took it.
paultrubits
paul trubits 2
The ValuJet crash was caused by expired oxygen canisters that hand been loaded in the cargo hold. They caught fire and brought the plane down.
andyc852
True, but the underlying problems about outsourced services and robust monitoring are the issue here I believe.
tomhuck
Matt Tran 0
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

Out-of-Control Takeoff Try by Allegiant Jet Spurs FAA Probe

U.S. air-safety investigators are looking into a mechanical failure that caused the nose of an Allegiant Airlines jet to rise off the ground prematurely before takeoff, defying the crew’s attempts to push it down.
Pilots abruptly halted their roll on the runway at 138 miles (222 kilometers) an hour to regain control of the Boeing Co. MD-83 in Las Vegas on Aug. 17, the Federal Aviation Administration said. Allegiant blamed a fault in the elevator, the part of the tail that helps an aircraft to climb or descend.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-26/out-of-control-takeoff-attempt-by-allegiant-jet-spurs-faa-probe

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