Florida: Mexican Learjet Departs Fort Lauderdale Airport, Crashes in Atlantic Ocean

Jet Rescue of Scottsdale confirm via Facebook that they are NO LONGER the owner operator of the doomed LearJet

We have received several media inquiries regarding the fatal learjet crash off the Fort Lauderdale coast.XA-USD was leased by our company several years ago. We ceased utilizing that aircraft 4 years ago.The owner /operator is AeroJL from Toluca, and the medical service provider is Air Evac International from San Diego California. Our deepest condolences to those families in grief.

Listening to the ATC tape again, it seams that they definitely had a bigger problem than the loss of an engine. The initial check-in with departure indicated no problem and the aircraft should have been cleaned up and an engine failure would have been relatively easy to handle. The subsequent transmissions of climb to 4000' not possible and the immediate 180 request hints at dual engine failure or reduction in power, possibly due to birds, or some other major problem.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/XAUSD/history/20131119/2330Z/KFLL/MMCZ

It doesn't look like the aircraft had any sort of chance... The aircraft is just a mangled pile of wreckage now. Doesn't even look like a plane anymore. Hoping and praying that they find the two missing alive. Condolences to those affected. The whole Air Medical family mourns today.

ATC Archive KMIA Dep http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kmia/KMIA-Dep-Nov-20-2013-0030Z.mp3

Begin listening at 20 minutes.

First off, My condolences and gratitude to the families involved. To lose your life during the care and saving of others is truly tragic.

They were in a tough spot, night and departure over water, but a Lear35 should fly and make a safe return landing on one engine. The crew either had a much bigger problem than the engine failure mentioned in the mayday or they miss managed the return procedure. This one looks like it will be solved.

The airplane is a mexican aircraft that belongs to aerojl out of toluca mexico. This company has several aircraft leajet 60s , 35s and a challenger 601-3r. the lear was under contract with Jet Rescue but it does not belong to Jet Rescue.

R.I.P.

The Learjet 35, which went down in the Atlantic Ocean after taking off from Fort Lauderdale at 7:51 p.m. ET Tuesday, bound for Cozumel, Mexico.

Does anyone know the serial number of this a/c? Thanks in advance.

Live Atc - 126.05 Miami Dep - Audio Archives - Nov 20th - 0030z to 0100z - Start at 20:00 in.

Broward County Sheriff and Area Police / Fire Live Audio Feed http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/13869/web via @Broadcastify

From Broadcastify.com:

--UPDATE 5-- Another soul has been located now bringing the count to 3 of 4. --UPDATE 4-- Another Soul was found bringing the count to two. Here is information the plane http://flightaware.com/live/flight/XAUSD (14 minutes ago)

Not sure if this is the current owner but the downed LearJet was registered to Jet Rescue of Scottsdale AZ

Scottsdale, AZ, 08/28/2009 - Just in Time for our busy winter travel season Jet Rescue Air Ambulance Proudly announces the addition of its 2 Learjet 35-A in Mexico.

Jet Rescue International, an air ambulance company with its headquarters in Scottsdale, AZ has proudly presented the latest addition to its fleet; a Learjet 35-A (XA-USD).

This Learjet will be the second air ambulance Learjet stationed in Mexico. This air ambulance will be stationed at the Toluca International Airport (MMTO), a few miles from Mexico City.

The Learjet 35-A medical Interior is custom made and has a Life port plus Stretcher system, dedicated medical cabinets and full modern ICU equipment. In addition the aircraft avionics allow for worldwide missions.
These 2 Lear jets 35 make the perfect aircraft to evacuate patients from South/Latin America and Mexico back to the United States or Canada.

The air ambulance aircraft will be crewed by 2 highly experienced pilots, 2 ICU trained medical personnel and will be operated by Mexican DGAC Part 135 equivalent Certificate Holder Aero Jl S.A.

Leonardo Ramirez yes im sure of that kind of planes property od AeroJL

http://rptides.blogspot.ca/2009/08/jet-rescue-air-ambulance-adds-new.html

From USATODAY

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2013/11/20/learjet-crash-florida/3648685/

BTW Live ATC station/recording at KFLL has been down for over a day.

Yes am sure am based in toluca

Yes am sure I am based in toluca

On the KMIA ATC recording, I believe I hear the pilot saying that he has 'engine failure'. He asks for a 180 to return to KFLL, and twice repeats the reason for his returning.

A minute or 2 later, he calls 'mayday, mayday' when it becomes clear that his continued drop in altitude [flightaware data] will not permit the plane to reach KFLL. The controller asked if he can make it to Fort Lauderdale Executive airport which is a bit north of FLL, and presumably closer to the position of the plane. I don't believe I hear that the pilot ever answer him after that.

The controllers sounded quite professional and continued to direct air traffic, including communications with police helicopters a couple of times, due to the unfolding emergency situation [search and rescue].

Please note if you can make out the communication more cleary than I did.

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Lear 35 Down off FLL

Mexican tail down right after takeoff... No other details yet.. Coast guard dispatched.


http://tbo.com/news/florida/jet-crashes-off-florida-coast-en-route-to-mexico-20131119/

Sounds like they got too slow doing the 180.

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FAA confirms Lear jet crashed off Fort Lauderdale with four onboard

A search-and-rescue effort was underway Tuesday night for a private plane reported to have crashed in waters off Broward County with four people onboard.

The plane, headed to Mexico, went down around 8 p.m. about a mile off shore Fort Lauderdale, said FAA spokesman Kathleen Bergen.

There are unconfirmed reports that some of the victims have been brought to shore.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/19/3765558/coast-guard-says-small-private.html#storylink=cpy


http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/19/3765558/coast-guard-says-small-private.html