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Airbus renames CSeries: A220

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Toulouse - Bombardier CSeries aircraft are now called A220-100 and A220-300. The cooperation between Bombardier and Airbus on the CSeries was one of the most prominent industry events of 2017. (airlinerwatch.com) More...

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TorontoJeff
Jeff Phipps 6
I'm mixed on the AB acquisition but truth be told, this was the fault of Bombardier. Their management of the program is a case history of why a family shouldn't control a conglomerate. The reality is AB probably saved the program, whether they shelve it, expand it, or leave it as be. At least we will still see the C-Series fly for the foreseeable future and I'm thankful for that! I will, however, never look at Boeing the same way again.
aghume
Alan Hume 4
It looks for all the world like an Airbus. If truth be told it has probably saved the C-series and all the jobs and infrastructure that goes with it, while giving Airbus a modern 100-seater which they didn't have. Bombardier didn't have many sales locked in. This will open up the whole world to them and especially in the SE-Asia and Oceania regions. I see it as a win-win for both Bombardier and Airbus.
cgraydon
It is too bad for Canadian aviation , they had give 51% away could be worse to see the whole program go down!
cparrott73
Interesting. Does this mean we will eventually see A221 and A223 as aircraft equipment type designators on FlightAware?
Larns
Shall we expect the B736 for Embraer's E2 jets?
toolguy105
toolguy105 1
I think the next aircraft after the 789 will be 790
tyketto
There's already a 787-900, that won't work for ICAO-type aircraft types for a flight plan. And if Boeing sticks to their normal numbering scheme, any 79* would be part of the 797 series, which could either be used for this, or their NMA that they are designing.
n914wa
Mike Boote 1
I don't know - it could just as easily be 7107
tyketto
Seeing that there was already a B736 (being the B737-600 series), the answer is no.

Like mentioned below, this will probably be something completely different, like how the last MD90 designs were designated the B717. The problem, however is that with Boeing having trademarked the 797, we don't know if it will be for their NMA, or a baby Boeing for use with the EJets. They've run out of numbers in the 700 series.
PSUAth
The 600 series? maybe the 500 series?
tyketto
There was also a 735 (737-500) series as well. Those were part of the 737NG (Next Generation) series, as opposed to the Classic series (737-100, 737-200, 737-300, 737-400). The 737-700, 737-800, and 737-900 are the only ones remaining outside of the MAX variants coming out.

And it doesn't make sense to do a 737-10 series like they did with the B787, because the EJets would be a smaller aircraft.
linbb
linbb 1
Doubt it will be the same deal they did with the MD series am betting. That way its not a Boeing idea.
kevinkeswick
Its a sad day for the Canadian aviation industry and Canada. Years of hard work and investments to create the most advanced single aisle jet on the market only to have to give it given away to Airbus for $1 thanks to Trump's threat of 300% tariffs. Adding salt to the wounds is the construction of a FAL in Alabama (paid for by Bombardier!). No doubt when it breaks ground Trump will be there to take credit for all the "stolen" jobs he is bringing back to America. But for the fact that some jobs will remain in Mirabel for the foreseeable future - I would have preferred to see the program cancelled instead of what happened. With Airbus owning the program I doubt we will see -500 -700 etc stretches of the jet - it will never reach full potential
tyketto
Hard for Trump to take credit for something that was already planned and there to begin with, especially with seeing that the factory down there already was pushing out the A320 series before he even took office. They'll laugh him out of there so fast and remind him that they told him to go pound sand after getting around his ridiculous tariffs.

Embraer is going to do the same with him as well, as they got around his steel/aluminum tariffs against Brazil. They'll tell him to stuff it more than Canada and Europe will.

He screwed the USA with those tariffs; they win, and we lose.
kevinkeswick
Trump will take credit. The fact is the 300%+ tariff's imposed by his Sec. of Commerce - Wilbur Ross (since shot down) forced Bombardier to "partner" with Airbus, i.e. give away the entire CSeries program to Airbus for $1 and to build a FAL in Alabama (paid for by Bombardier?) I do agree with your last statement - with those tariffs they (USA) win and We (Canada) lose . I expect Trump will next target the Canadian Auto sector for destruction. When you are a bully TEN times the size of your nearest neighbor you can do these things
canuck44
canuck44 0
Misleading choice implies that Airbus had input into the creation, design and testing of an aircraft technologically superior to any other on the market when in fact they contributed nothing but Johnny Come Lately financing.
nasdisco
Chris B 7
Same thing was said after the MD acquisition by Boeing.
n914wa
Mike Boote 3

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