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Physical evidence comfirms the link between two Boeing 737 MAX 8 crashes

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Seattle - The horizontal stabilizer of the Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 MAX 8 on March 10 was in an unusual position at the time of the crash. Researchers concluded this after finding a drive spindle at the crash location, according to a flight safety consultant who spoke to the Seattle Times. (airlinerwatch.com) More...

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shenghaohan
Shenghao Han 12
If it is the same cause, then the Boeing’s mendated additional training of recovery procedure (which the implication deadline is in April) is not sufficient, and or Ethiopian Airlines hadn’t given pilot flying the training to perform a safe flight...
Needless to say a hole definitely exist on Ethiopian’s training programs... but, of course, a bigger hole exists on Boeing’s human-machine-interactive design and automation related computer systems... lets hope they can fill the holes as soon as possible because I want to see that winglet flying again!
raleedy
ALLAN LEEDY 0
I think the word you are looking for is not "mendated" but "mendacious".
steerts
I thing he meant "mandated", or are you just being cute.
btweston
btweston -5
Interesting train of thought.
ebrites
scott ebrite 10
This doesn't conform anything other than the position/condition of the stabilizer. No one knows, yet, why. No cause and effec has been determined.
maverick49
Tom Novak 5
If you read the article, the position of the stabilizer was due to a drive spindle, So it's a strong evidence.
buckeyeflyer1
RONALD Likover 6
All the testing and people involved in certification of a new aircraft something slipped through the cracks here. Not good when 2 very new aircraft have accidents that are somewhat similar. I feel bad for the victims can’t imagine what they went through during the accident.
wcarniez
Whyn Carnie 3
To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. It would seem dangerous for a design team to make a significant change to engine position affecting forces in flight unless they advise operators and pilots of altered flight characteristics.
serdyfsx12
JOE SERDYNSKI 3
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/17/1842872/-Boeing-article-in-Seattle-Times-Read-it-and-weep-literally?utm_campaign=trending
dgjones
DONALD JONES 2
The experts will soon know the answer to why , and if the two accidents have same cause. Until that time why not find out why a software geek decided to take the airplane out of the hands of the pilot(s). From what I read, the ‘corrective’ action should have ceased once the came down. Oh! That’s right, the computer really didn’t know........
ctwilhoit
Call me old fashioned, but my concern for some time now has been that we'll get to a point where the automated systems think they know more than the pilots know. IF that turns out to be what happened here I hope we learn from it and think more carefully about automation.
steerts
I'm waiting for the FDR data info on Deck angle following V2. That will be of most interest to me.
ebrites
scott ebrite 2
This doesn't confirm anything other than the position/condition of the stabilizer. No one knows, yet, why. No cause and effect has been determined.
btweston
btweston -8
You’re right, Lt. Drebin. Nothing to see here.

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williambaker08
william baker -1
Up voted by a bowing fan.

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williambaker08
william baker 1
It’s okay for him to speculate but the rest of us it’s not allowed.

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lynx318
lynx318 0
Still needs to be shown to us that the stabiliser was affected this way by the software and not pilot error or mechanical fault. Not saying it wasn't MCAS, seems most likely, but we need to see some public releases before anymore speculation here.
yr2012
matt jensen 0
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-14/something-was-extraordinarily-wrong-doomed-boeing-swung-and-down-hundreds-feet
GalenThurber
Galen Thurber 0
don't try to pass zerohedge as a source
yr2012
matt jensen -1
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/piece-found-at-ethiopian-airlines-crash-site-shows-jet-was-set-to-dive-2008100

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btweston
btweston 0
I thought you said it was a bomb.

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williambaker08
william baker 6
A blow out of a cargo door has happen before. American Airlines 96 and United airlines flight 811 of two that really come to mind. Neither one of those planes had a nose down issue that wasn’t controllable.
mbrews
mbrews 2
Duh right a cargo door blowout. Comment barely deserves an answer. Anyone who has studied trajectory can dismiss that out of hand. More red herrings no surprise
btweston
btweston -2
No, really. On another thread you said it was a bomb. You said that.

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GalenThurber
Galen Thurber 4
Boeing, this is libertarism in action, self regulation.
whip5209
Ken McIntyre 4
You must be a lawyer

btweston
btweston -6
I was about to write about how you should calm down, but as I was doing so I thought, “Wait... somebody allowed this to happen. For money.”

Someone needs to pay the piper.
aecsdr
Chris DiCenso 1
It's always about the "Bottom Line".

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