Delta Turns Flight Around After Multiple Passengers Refuse to Wear Masks

Weather they work or not is irrelevant. We could discuss that all day and present facts and links from both sides but that will not change the policy so it is just a waste of time. The policy says you wear a mask so you wear a mask, if you don't like it you don't fly.

If masks do not protect, then why do surgeons where them?

They wear them so the surgeon does not spit into the open wound and contaminate the field. By wearing a mask you lower the "spit" you produce by breathing and talking and therefore you limit the ability to pass on the virus to others - especially if you are asymptomatic.

If everyone would wear a mask when they are out and about, the spread of the virus would be significantly curtailed.

I wonder if many who are mask deniers are generally those who don’t wash after using a restroom, or argue about their so-called “rights”, such as violating the No shirt, No shoes, No service policies of dining places. You don’t like the rules and expectations of basic decency in someone else’s private business, don’t spend your money there.. Get a hotdog from the guy on the corner, eat on the beach without a shirt and hangout by yourself where your germs and selfish lack of manners won’t harm others. Don’t want to follow the rules on a commercial airline...don’t fly. It’s that simple.

Nice analogy about the diaper. I suppose you never used them to CONTAIN all the crap that comes out of babies. Your house most have smelled something crazy. But if we're lucky, you dont have any offspring and your moronic views will not be passed on.

No, the WHO <b><i>did not</i></b> say asymptomatic people are barely contagious. That was a FUBAR instance of a scientist's poorly worded comment being quoted out of context.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/health/gupta-coronavirus-podcast-wellness-june-16/index.html
Studies have also shown that people may be most contagious just before they start to show symptoms.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/what-the-who-meant-to-say-about-asymptomatic-people-spreading-the-coronavirus

Also, the virus is present in the upper respiratory tract, so it appears that it can spread simply through, as Ryan put it during the event, “singing, speaking loudly, exertion, maybe in a gym . . . shouting in a night club because you can’t hear your friend.” (Coughing and sneezing, of course, are likely to spread virus-bearing droplets farther through the air, which is a reason that symptomatic patients could infect more people; an unanswered question is how much each group drives the pandemic.) Someone might go to a restaurant “feeling O.K.,” but their “viral load could be actually quite high.” (In a key epidemiological study showing how the virus spread from table to table in a restaurant in China, the initial patient didn’t report symptoms until hours after having eaten there.) Ryan emphasized that this was a reason for wearing masks. “There is this period of time when, you know, even a professor of infectious diseases themselves wouldn’t know that I’m getting covid,” Ryan said. “There is that hours or days in which you’re not that unwell, or you could be becoming unwell, you’re not aware of your status, and it’s because the disease can spread at that moment that the disease is so contagious. That’s why it’s spread around the world in such an uncontained way. It’s because it’s hard to stop this virus.”

The man in Arizona that had his penis amputated because of Covid felt the same way.

This from an expert in “ useless”. I weep for your offspring.

@Adi Rabadi opined "... send the bill to the passengers that caused the turn around." That might require a class-action lawsuit from both Delta and the other passengers that suffered from the KATL arrival delay, but some ACLU lawyer might be willing to take the case.

They need to sue the passengers for the cost of the return and flight cost to get back to where the plane was when it turned around. But make it a state court case so the president can't pardon them.

It would be so much better if this malignant administration had taken this seriously from the beginning. Imagine how many people would still be alive.

As of a few days ago, the coffins of the dead would be 193 miles long end to end, 65 miles side to side, and 53 miles tall stacked. And if the official numbers ARE 28% low, the true numbers could be 247 miles long, 83 miles wife, and 68 miles tall.

If this is 'prolife', I don't get it. So many needlessly dead.

What if a group of people decided that traffic lights were a conspiracy and refused to stop, asserting their "freedom" as the reason? Would you still drive? We obey laws so we can all live together.

One question and it should be simple enough even for you - do you wear a seatbelt? I suspect you do and the reality is, you won’t need it most times you ride in a vehicle but they’re proven to save your life on that one occasion when you do. Same applies for masks, I may not need it today but on that day when I do, it only works when I’m wearing it. Besides, when I wear a mask, it’s as much about protecting YOU as it is me. Pull your head out of your back side and think of others for a change.

I see you have absolutely no idea what the masks are for. They are NOT to protect you from other people, they are to protect other people from YOU if you are asymptomatic. Whenever you breath or cough a fine mist of water particles shoot out of your mouth. If you are sick, the virus will be on those droplets. If someone breaths in the water droplet they can get infected. The mask traps the droplets in the mask so they don't fly out. The droplets will eventually fall to the floor but it takes about 6 feet before gravity pulls them to the ground.

If masks do not protect, then why do surgeons where them?

They wear them so the surgeon does not spit into the open wound and contaminate the field. By wearing a mask you lower the "spit" you produce by breathing and talking and therefore you limit the ability to pass on the virus to others - especially if you are asymptomatic.

If everyone would wear a mask when they are out and about, the spread of the virus would be significantly curtailed.

If you are going to repeat the same old drivel, I will respond with facts and data.

We have heard thIs same kind of malarkey about defying science and medicine by these deniers over and over again throughout history...not sure whether such defiance is the result of just not listening in school, selfishness, conservativeness, being duped by their media and those for whom they voted, susceptibility to conspiracy theories, religious beliefs, exposure to chemtrails, watching evangelical “pastors” and former game show hosts who’ve become experts on pandemics, or what? Maybe it’s a combination of some or all of the above.

I spent a lot of time in California in the late 80's with my uncle hiking the Sierras and was on Mt Whitney twice. I really love California.

Your country might need advice from someone. Ive never been a Trudeau fan and won't defend his scandals but our politicians on both sides are smart enough to listen to real scientists. I am concerned about my own country. Thank You for illustrating why 90% of Canadians don't want Americans entering Canada.

I certainly agree with you. I think “normal” is going to look very different as we navigate these times. I just wanted to commend Delta for its obvious hard work.

It seems they were taxiing in preparation for departure but returned to the gate. Not sure what happened, but from what it sounds like, the airline returned to prove a point that they would be kicked off. Looks like they complied and the flight pushed back for the 2nd time and departed without further incident.

Your comment is totally incorrect by almost all measures of scientific fact. Please take your civic and moral responsibility to not post anti-mask comments that are not routed in fact.

You asked "What science?" Here's some good science that addresses exactly the issue you bring up about the earlier recommendation not to wear masks.

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

Keep in mind that "Lack of scientific evidence that they work" is not the same thing as "evidence that they do not work."

When there is a lack of evidence, you gather more evidence. That's what they did.

Now there is enough evidence that masks are effective at preventing transmission, so the CDC has updated their recommendations. Also, it's common sense. COVID spreads primarily when an infected person breathes out droplets of moisture from their lungs and someone else breathes them in. A mask can stop a lot of those droplets from getting into the air.

In science (and in life) you must be open to changing your mind when new facts become available. More people need to learn this lesson.

so, if you don't like smoking, let the smokers smoke in cinemas, theatre and restaurants, and don't go there! Nice way to sort out problems...

On St Croix in the US Virgin Islands, there are several restaurants with similar signs posted. No Shirt - No Shoes -No Problem.

And what about laws mandating use of seatbelts in cars? Was there an uproar then about violation of civil rights?

People here in the US would balk at doing what the Chinese allegedly did. They welded the doors of apartment buildings shut so no one could go in or out.

The only reason YOUR 'face diaper' seems so useless is it is so full of sh it

The only Karen here is you... repeating the same thing over and over and over and over and over again

You seem to think you’re clever - you’re not.

Move along little doggie

Agreed. Unfortunately this forum is filled with sheep incapable of finding information beyond the mainstream media.

Enrique Silva - will you please hand prop my airplane? Whoops! Feet slipped off the brakes. Too bad, so sad.

Dumbass

If masks do not protect, then why do surgeons where them?

They wear them so the surgeon does not spit into the open wound and contaminate the field. By wearing a mask you lower the "spit" you produce by breathing and talking and therefore you limit the ability to pass on the virus to others - especially if you are asymptomatic.

If everyone would wear a mask when they are out and about, the spread of the virus would be significantly curtailed.

If you are going to repeat the same old drivel, I will respond with facts and data.

This is getting tiresome - again and again.

Here's a little study on masks...
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2

Here's a little study in masks...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2

I agree and am always wearing my mask out. However, these two a-holes were already seated, breathing on pax, crews, touching armrests, etc. The damage was done.

Maybe if someone takes off their mask they get escorted and locked in the aft lav?

That horse was already out of the barn. If these two were infected then everyone on the flight was already exposed.

This is peer reviewed...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2

That should be monoxide. Damn fat fingers get in the way every now and then. ;)

I do hope some of your intelligence slips over the boarded and infects the current heard of "I am free to infect all" nitwits that say a mask takes away their freedom. Freedom to do what??