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Two British tourists were barred from entering America after joking on Twitter that they were going to 'destroy America' and 'dig up Marilyn Monroe'. Leigh Van Bryan, 26, was handcuffed and kept under armed guard in a cell with Mexican drug dealers for 12 hours after landing in Los Angeles with pal Emily Bunting. The Department of Homeland Security flagged him as a potential threat when he posted an excited tweet to his pals about his forthcoming trip to Hollywood which read: 'Free this week,… (www.dailymail.co.uk) More...

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bw1273
brian wright 5
It's a good thing he didn't tweet that he was going to smoke a fag, they'd have gotten him on conspiracy to murder a homosexual.
sstuff
sstuff 0
Excellent analogy.
tartarus12
Robert Curley 0
I agree. Very well done Brian.
andrewstagg
Andrew Stagg 4
I dislike the TSA as much as the next person, but it was actually U.S. Customs and Border Protection who refused them entry.
rick737
richard weiss 0
True, but Customs and Boarder Protection reports to DHS. Big Sis strikes again.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 0
I am definitly not a TSA defender. Huge waste of money. That said, the oneous is on the person entering our country to understand our meaning of words here. If these people want to talk trash all over the world they just might find theirselves being misunderstood. In this case stupidity prevailed on both sides.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Very true, but I saw a tombstone on COMMON SENSE the other day, showing it had passed on sometime back.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 0
lol! I'm sure it's buried at the same location where the 727 is getting buried: and by the same people.
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 1
At least it will have a working lav!
Derg
Roland Dent 1
The fact is that if anybody makes a comment like that it has to be taken seriously. Anything at all that endangers any aircraft anywhere at anytime and is recorded or over heard HAS to be acted upon. Just NOT a matter to jest with. The US Stare Dept. does not make any exceptions and will often act without local agreement from authortities overseas to arrest those involved. If the threat was made about a US carrier they are rendered back to the USA. At this point the TSA hands over the ofendant to the CIA and that is that. Same happens all over Europe by the way.
BoeingFan59
Troy Raiteri 0
Thanks for pointed that out Roland! But I'm not an TSA defender as well but when things like this come up. Expect a rough arrival when you mention a bomb at an airport. My CFI told me you wouldn't want to mention any bombs or so at an airport.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
Haha Troy...those who are serious offenders get taken away by a fast business jet at 0,9 and 43K feet. Next stop Langley VA. No messin. Never ever jest about this stuff.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 0
He gave you good advice. I always put my gun away before going to the airport too.
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 1
Former Cowboys (and Sooners) head coach Barry Switzer probably wishes someone had passed that advice on to him.
DavidChouinard
David Chouinard 3
Here's Bruce Schneier's response to the story: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/01/british_tourist.html

Interesting commentary.
DavidChouinard
David Chouinard 2
Also, it appears that this pair came to the attention of the border folks in the US because of a tip off: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/01/31/call-to-lax-tipline-flagged-u-k-tourists-tweets/

So the DHS is *not* systematically searching Twitter.
xaminmo
Yes, of course, "destroy America" means literally. Because you know, there's a single, big, red button called "Self Destruct". It's called "People who have no flexibility, no capability for critical thinking, but who suddenly find themselves endowed with too much authority over someone else.

It's pop culture in the US to. "I'm going to tear it up tonight." "I'm going to destroy this party/drink/keg." They were saying they were going to tour the nation and have an awesome time.

The onus is on the enforcement officers to comprehend context and meaning. This is why wiretapping, etc are all supposed to have restrictions... because everyone will say SOMETHING that will be misconstrued by someone.

But, you know, it's ok. It's better for us to be secure than to be free, right? I mean, we don't REALLY have any constitutional protections now, so let's just go ahead and destroy the few international friends we have left by kicking out their civs on their way over to spend money in our country. It's alright. We'll always be wealth and well respected and never need the help of friends outside of our own borders.

TO VICTORY!
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 2
And is it just me or does this new posting format suck? I type something, then try to move my cursor back to re-word something, and the damned thing posts as is. Got some bugs to work out here.
gotchman
Craig Harris 1
Over-reaction on TSA's part but it does make me glad I don't "tweet" and am not on Facebook. Nobody needs to know my business.
WigzellRM
Ralph Wigzell 1
TSA et al, makes me sick.
Moviela
Ric Wernicke 1
Everyone knows you can't dig up Marilyn Monroe. She is in a Mausoleum, and the body is above ground.
preacher1
preacher1 0
Well, I don't tweet and I am on facebook only to keep up with true friends. I don't post my business either.
kvh1775
kvh1775 0
To late Craig your post was just flagged and you will now be subject to further screening on your next flight.
Derg
Roland Dent 0
I am glad your security services are doing the job..this may seem like an over reaction..but in reality, in my view, it was justified.
BoeingFan59
Troy Raiteri 0
I'm on FB as well...guess we should watch what we do around here.
Derg
Roland Dent 0
Always will be evil people..shades of malintent...cannot say I have seen much on here...but there always will be people who seek information that will hurt others.
timewright
timewright 0
DHS has probably tagged all of us for our comments here. I'm just sayin'
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 0
Yea, we're probably all on the TSA hit list now. Guess I'll fly private or drive. Bet the airline pilots on here will get groped next flight.LOL
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 1
Yep... Shining their flashlights in all of our buttholes for these comments.
capnaux
Eric Auxier 0
I'm all for Freedom of Speech, but this IS the equivalent of yelling "Fire!" in a crowded movie house. While it ultimately was figured out to be misunderstood slang, I wouldn't want him on my plane. It reminds me of the German who was arrested for attempted hijacking/terrorism when he rushed the cockpit thinking it was the bathroom and yelling, "The roof is going to cave in!"--apparently meaning he was going to wet his pants!
capnaux.blogspot.com
jeffbssr
j s 0
As a US citizen who has been denied a visa ($900 fee kept by UK Govt.)to live with my Fiancee who is a US citizen civilian employed by the USAF in the UK, and then denied entry into the UK to visit her and deported because "there is insufficient reliable information to decide on wheather to grant you temporary admission" and "Failure to give satisfactory or reliable answers to an Immigration Officer". I see this as a bit of payback.
rick737
richard weiss 1
I refer you to my dear mother who told me that 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Also, as I understand, there is no visa requirement for a US tourist to visit the UK.
littlejackal
littlejackal 1
You are right there is no visa requirement to enter the UK but if you read carefully, he was denied a visa to LIVE in the UK, in other words he filed for a residency visa. He was then denied entry, everyone is subject to scrutiny regardless if you don't require a visa to enter. The US stance on this is that you are someone who plans to stay in the USA unless you can prove otherwise.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
Are you sure? Only people who don't need a visa are military and diplomatic. The standard visa for UKers to USA is 90 days. The entry proedure for USA borders is one of the toughest. The are some 60K USA nationals who live in the UK. Thats why USA has two embassies here.
littlejackal
littlejackal 1
Yes no visa required for a stay up to 90 days. This is reciprocal, the USA has the VWP(Visa Waiver Program) and the UK is part of it. Travelers under the VWP must request travel authorization electronically under ESTA.
ESTA is an automated system that determines the eligibility of visitors to travel to the U.S. under the Visa Waiver Program. The ESTA application collects the same information collected on Form I-94W. ESTA applications may be submitted at anytime prior to travel, though it is recommended travelers apply when they begin preparing travel plans.
USA has an embassy in London, consulates in Belfast and Ediburgh, and a Virtual Presence Post in Cardiff.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
Thanks for advice..I had that all wrong.
sparkie624
sparkie624 0
Go "Home Land Security", show off your stupidity some where else.
willyb4
Slow day at TSA.
preacher1
preacher1 0
Sounds like some lack of common sense and understanding of foreigh customs/language
rick737
richard weiss 0
Aren't we a hospitable country. These folks try to enter the USA legally, spend their hard earned Euro's to improve our economy, and enjoy the warm California sunshine. But no, DHS has to give them a story to tell their friends what a bunch of idiots they met in America. Sad part is they will be telling the truth.
Pigweed298
Roy Kizzia -1
Well, I sure feel safer now... (rolling eyes)
andriy17
when will REAL AMERICANS stand up and end this crap? America is rolling downhill........it is very sad :-(
JReinertsen
Glad to see amy trolls both FA and twitter these day. Thank you TSA for stopping these criminals!!!
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 0
Looks like the TSA pulled some of their usual unintelligent moves. That said, I'm not for letting foreign nationals enter US without a fair amount of vetting. We already have a border that is granting entrance for those that wish to remain anonomous. These two characters don't look or act like the're capable of doing much except partying.
pilot62
Scott Campbell -1
Clueless TSA come the ^$%$ on, Brits say im going to destroy something like a club tonight,or the next trip to Vegas, is there any understanding at all of other cultures, bunch of half - wits......
7express
max lyons 0
I agree it's incredibly stupid and these two people deserve an apology, but some of these people that post stuff on facebook/twitter just completely amaze me with what they write.
jhakunti
This is outrageous. If anything our president and congress should be arrested for actually doing what these dudes tweeted about doing.

I will say no more because I do not wish to be detained indefinitely. I'm American and they can do that to me now.
Woodenwillie
Must take note not to say how ignorant those TSA and DHS people are. We thought it, but now they have confirmed it !

This story must be made up, surely those people cant be that stupid.............or can they ??
jrsx
John Shanahan -1
Wow, I'm not even sure what to make of this story........
dmanuel
dmanuel 0
Wasn't there a similar issue, a couple of years ago, where TSA only knew one definition of a certain word? It appears a TSA person overheard a woman, talking to a friend, mentioning the play her daughter was in, was a bomb. Which started a security lockdown.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
In case you haven't noticed, Common sense is not nearly as common as it used to be. It should be called "Precious Sense" as Precious few have any.
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 1
I have to admit, prior to this article, I would not have understood the context of "destroy" as used by the tourist. Like James said above, you have to put the oneous on foreigners being a little more cautious with the use of slang terms.
rick737
richard weiss 0
Let's do it next November, AT THE POLES!!
lkrupp
Louis Krupp 0
As UK residents, they'd be spending pounds sterling, not euros, but you're right; we're not looking good here.
timewright
timewright 0
Gee, I remember talking about "Destroying" i.e.parting hearty, when I was a kid. Good thing that was way before 9/11/01... Oh yeah, and I'm born and raised USA.
lkrupp
Louis Krupp 0
Don't blame the Poles; they had nothing to do with this. Do what you want at the polls in November, but remember that both parties have had a hand in getting us where we are.
rick737
richard weiss 0
a technicality, but true. No matter, we lost the opportunity help our balance of trade with the UK. We owe those people an apology.
jeffbssr
j s 1
those people might well be speaking German right now if we hadn't bailed their asses out in the past.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
Nah you don't...
rick737
richard weiss 0
big sis and pistole perpetuate this mess. When B.O. goes, so do they. So yeah, let's go to the poles and vote for a change.
hopskip
What's Poland got to do with it. lol.
rick737
richard weiss 0
sorry for the mizzpelling.
delmonaco03
Why do I hear a Tina Turner song playing in my mind right now?