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Air NZ loses case over flight attendant's Facebook

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An Air New Zealand flight attendant forced to let her bosses examine her Facebook pages so they could check what she was up to on sick leave has won a battle over her former employers. (www.smh.com.au) More...

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avihais
Martin Haisman 1
Something strange here over one day. As for the history lesson irrelevant in the circumstances of the current organisation, human resources practices and company culture. Investigating aircraft accidents for five years a whole can of worms is opened up needing an enormous amount of facts, analysis and impartiality. There is always two sides of the story and I have not studied the privacy act in detail therefor cannot comment on use. I assume (That's a big assume) Facebook is public information therefor usable?
avihais
Martin Haisman 1
As I said something strange over one day. I do agree about the previous history lesson over the Erebus issue. It was not bright to send a commercial airliner to the Antarctic with 257 people. A good thing the Mike Pero memorial flight did not go ahead. It is easy in hindsight though to judge prior contract issues however without being privy to the current contract, flight scheduling, planning and having crew available is not an easy job. We will only see what the outcome brings
BrettE
Brett Easton 1
I can't believe this airline, to think they have the right to demand that their employees supply them with your bank details and read your personal information on facebook is totally wrong.
I hope she sues their ass off
kmischewski
Kevin Mischewski 1
Never let the facts get in the way of a good old whinge. I've only read the SMH article. It reported that the ERA supported the company's accessing Facebook. The ERA decision was that in this instance the dismissal was not what a fair and reasonable employer would have done despite the fact that they were somewhat scathing of the employees behaviour.

The crash of NZB. My recollection is that the training captain accidentally pulled the thrust reverser when simulating an angine failure on short final. Nothing about the nose gear failing to extend and lock in my recollection.

The crash of NZP in the antarctic. A truly unfortunate accident. My observation was that these flights were well managed and highly sought after trips. There have been many aviation disasters over the years when we get too complacent with the technology. Anyone recall KAL007 or just this year Asiana flight 214 at San Francisco. Erebus should never have happened, but I think it is a bit of a stretch to call sending a commercial airliner to the antarctic not too bright. Qantas were also operating such flights back then and have since restarted them. Flights out of Christchurch to the antarctic were routine trips back then. Albeit mostly C130's operated by the US Navy.

Anyway, I am very proud of my years in the 70's with Air New Zealand. For me they were a great employer and the equal of any airline in their operations, engineering, training and safety.
avihais
Martin Haisman 1
Getting away from the employee thing air force aircraft are equipped accordingly. The normal POB is 20 dressed accordingly for artic conditions. If the aircraft develops problems or there is a survivable crash - Enough rescue craft/helicopters are there to assist and they can be comfortably accommodated until a replacement aircraft arrives. A commercial airliner can not land, 257 people if they can survive in their light clothing can not be rescued and can not be accommodated in any of the Antarctic facilities, NZ or otherwise. The commercial airliner can not deploy flaps/slats etc. as they can be frozen in place and rendered useless.

The flight path is nowhere near shipping lanes or other regular flight paths and a water landing is near unsurvivable, especially a DC10 of the period. Quite frankly not brilliant aside from being a good marketing tool. NZ-NZP ironically was to be the last Antarctic trip as the high fuel costs at the time were making the trips to costly. I won't get into the depth of the accident as it would require a huge essay, as is the other two accidents under the TEAL/ANZ banner. As for technology issues I was introduced into this video recently well worth watching. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3kREPMzMLk

Mentioned previously, the artic trips from memory talking with my late father in law the "expectation", what is now called company culture was flight planning/crew scheduling was adhered to strictly aside from a death in the immediate family or inability to carry out duties, and yes hence the Antarctic crew scheduling was beyond a reasonable aviation safety factor.
ctiley
Colin Tiley-Evans 1
Andrew, the proper possessive word is 'their' not there - that word is describing a place.

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