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ABC News - Hypoxia in Piaggio over Texas

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Pilot Saved By Quick Thinking Air Traffic Controller Slurred speech alerted LouElla Hollingsworth that the pilot needed oxygen. (abcnews.go.com) More...

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Pilotguyr6
Pilotguyr6 4
Lucky they were not any higher.
preacher1
preacher1 5
The story said he was at 27k. That's high enough
matthewcoffey
Matthew Coffey 3
I thought the Avantii cabin was pressurized... Mabey he needs to get his aircraft checked out
bobbypilot
Robert Gomez 5
Excellent controller, she didnt think it twice and saved a fellow pilot.
ibpilot72
ibpilot72 4
Reminds of the Kalitta cargo flight that had a similar sitation. Here is a link to that one. Hypoxia is no joke! http://youtu.be/_IqWal_EmBg
chalet
chalet 2
I listened to this tape recording but the controller wasn't quick at all to realize that the pilots were suffering from hypoxia so did not instruct them to rush a descent to lower.
chalet
chalet 1
Contd) whereas the lady controller who guided the Avanti propjet knew what the problem was right away and knew how to solve it. Kudos for her.
mpradel
Marcus Pradel 2
I've seen Pilots & Instructors begin slurring radio calls, display signs of dislexia, and just fall asleep at 11-12k in the cabin. It is serious business.

I was under the impression all Piaggios were 2 crews.. no?
suz
suz 2
That Controller deserves far more than a safety medal. Hoping the so-called sequestor does NOT interfere with safety ...
MANBOI
MANBOI 2
They are single pilot turbo prop up to 9pax, sub 12.5k no type rating, just like a King Air 200.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Not sure either but I don't think it would have mattered at 27k to lose oxygen
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
Single pilot
ibpilot72
ibpilot72 1
The Piaggo 180 is singe pilot certified.
HBFlyer
HBFlyer 1
Story doesn't say why he had hypoxia. Did the cabin O2 fail?
dg1941
Damien Gehler 1
Does anyone remember the Payne Stewart accident? Good thing this had a happy ending.
jimquinndallas
Jim Quinn 1
If you ever get a chance to take a 'ride' in the altitude chamber at NASA, it's quite an experience. The explosive decompression simulation is incredible! I felt like Superman blowing out a forest fire--my lungs felt like they'd never run out of air. When one removes their mask and is tasked to do simple things like math problems, writing signatures, etc. it's quite revealing how hypoxia can take you out within seconds...
smoki
smoki 1
Typical journalists reporting the story as if the airplane had no pressurized cabin which was obviously the underlying cause, i.e. loss of cabin pressure, as it was for Payne Stewart's fatal mishap. There should have been a warning sound when the cabin altitude exceeded 10,000 ft. Hypoxia is insidious.

I can recall an F-4 Phantom driver many years ago who suffered the same fate ending up in an ever tightening high-g death spiral because it's assumed he had let his mask hang off to one side of his helmet, something he was in the habit of doing, and never got it fully attached before being overcome by hypoxia with a failed cabin pressure system which had previously been griped. He was on a solo test flight with no backseater. He was being chased by another Phantom whose pilot pleaded for the other pilot to pullout of his spiral to no avail. It was all recorded and replayed during recurring safety stand downs for several years hence.
jarretk1
Jarret Koenning 1
The media just has to throw alcohol in there somehow.
moichris
Christopher Russell 1
I experienced hypoxia once - due to carbon monoxide poisoning from a cracked exhaust manifold. (The CO prevents hemoglobin from picking-up oxygen in the lungs.) The onset was insidious. I recognized I was losing my ability to focus and concentrate, but I couldn't i.d. the problem. By the time I was aligned with my distination airport, I was unable to determine whether it WAS an airport, or whether it was an interstate. I just knew I HAD to get on the ground. I was probably just moments from losing consciousness.
chalet
chalet 1
Do you recall a story in the 50s when one F-80 of a squadron did not respond to radio calls and one or two of his buddies realizing that he lost oxygen breathing came ever so delicately over his tail forcing a downdraft and making the aircraft lose altitude until the pilot recovered consciousness. A risky feat that fortunately had a happy ending. This is all I rememeber.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Matters not the cause. She got him down.
hiflier32
ric lang 0
You never give up, do you?
preacher1
preacher1 2
Just outa curiosity ric, who you talking to? On my screen your post came out on top all by itself.

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ibpilot72
ibpilot72 4
It WASN'T an AvantAir flight.
myronswanson
myron swanson 0
oh i thought they operated all those planes.
myronswanson
myron swanson 2
"oh i thought they operated all those planes."

phil, the piaggio is type of plane, not an "operator"
MANBOI
MANBOI 2
There are 111 P180's registered in USA. Maybe 45-50 are in fractional owenership operated by Avantair.
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 1
In Phils defense a lot of those planes do share a common registration so I can see why he would think that.
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 1
he was probably thinking about Avantair
ibpilot72
ibpilot72 1
AvantAir N#s end in SL
preacher1
preacher1 1
He was. You know how us old folks can get confused at times. You notice I said US.LOL
MANBOI
MANBOI 1
Not 100% true. Most AvantAir N#s end in SL.
TLujan1279
Peter Lujan 0
And here in DFW Metroplex the news is stating that she will be sequestered as scheduled.
TBMer
Vincent Latona 1
Don't have a clue why she would be 'sequestered' The budget for this year is the SAME as last year. It's the RATE of increase that has decreased by 2%.