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......may be through Chicago. Some serious headwinds aloft made this trip a little different. A friend of mine was on this flight. (flightaware.com) More...

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onjuku20
onjuku20 4
My Airline uses flight plans called LIDO which calculate the cheapest route based on winds and other factors. Many time "Direct" is not the fastest or cheapest. The example you gave is ann extreme example of this.
chabs10602
Matthew Chalberg 4
I worked that flight, thought the route was odd but the winds were 120 knots by VHP and only 30-40 knots at JOT. Winds have been strong all week almost 200kts at FL360
ABQOOHP
John DuPont 3
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE403/history/20130104/1200Z/KIAH/KPHX

I stumbled onto this one Fri morning the 4th, when checking out the ABQ action. On closer look at all west bound traffic, across TX, NM and other states, they were really bucking a strong headwind, while east bound traffic has been whistling along, over 500kts. I flew HP ATL-PHX in Dec 2002 and it took us over 5hrs to complete the trip due to headwinds. All the way across TX it was like riding on buckboard roads.
flyingcookmosnter
flyingcookmosnter 3
WOw, looks like 150+ knot headwinds at 360 accross the lower mid-west. Beat the flight the day before by 30 minutes, nice.
bishops90
Brian Bishop 1
Yeah that's what I noticed. When I saw the flight plan, I had to look to see why. It seems like a lot more than 244 miles out of the way too!
Direct 1663 - As flown 1907
preacher1
preacher1 -2
Direct: 1,913 sm Planned: 2,167 sm Flown: 2,195 sm

What you smokin' old man?lol Just click on the link
bishops90
Brian Bishop 1
Status

Arrived over 19 hours ago (track log & graph)



Aircraft

Airbus A321 (twin-jet) (A321/Q – photos)



Speed

Filed: 445 kts (graph)



Altitude

Filed: 30,000 feet (graph)



Distance

Direct: 1,663 nm Planned: 1,884 nm Flown: 1,907 nm
bishops90
Brian Bishop 1
JACAL6 NALEY FLM J24 VHP BVT JOT J60 LNK J60 DBL J60 BCE GRNPA1

This the one you lookin at grandpa?
preacher1
preacher1 1
apparently not but was on the link.lol
Cactus732
Cactus732 2
You're both right, smart ones. One of you is looking at Nm and the other at Sm there is a substantial difference.
preacher1
preacher1 2
Tks for pointing that out James. I didn't see it either. I just grabbed the story ling and copied it off the FA graph. He must have ran it.
bishops90
Brian Bishop 1
LOL, you'd think two ol geezers like us'd notice the difference!
Thanks for clearing that up James. :)

dee9bee
dee9bee 2
If the flight was a turnaround, I'll bet they didn't return to LAS that way!