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US Airways Takes Key Step In Taking Over American Airlines

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US Airways has reached an agreement to merge with American Airlines after entering collective bargaining pacts with three of the company's labor unions. The deal was largely expected after American Airlines' parent company, AMR, entered bankruptcy and US Airways expressed interest. (finance.yahoo.com) More...

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faerrflier
kevin swiss 6
From a 2.5 mm AAL flier - UGGHHH!!! Could be time to change to DAL.:(
eirefly2009
alan hamill 2
If they get american am saying good bye to american
WyomingCowboy
J C Hancock 1
Believe me....it's NOT!
eirefly2009
alan hamill 4
U.S Airways planes are terrible and so old.........they even have some seat covers from the America West planes!!
Lapetomane
William Lapetomane 4
If one of the CEO denies it then it is probably a done deal . Just ask the Delta CEO. He lied his rear end off denying Delta was merging with NWA . Turns out it was a done deal.
Oh and Keven Swiss. Don't change yet. Delta has just as many people complainng about them.
So does United or whatever they are called these days. No offense United but I really don't like your paint jobs on your planes. They look like you can't make up your mind who you want to be. Ok everyone rant is over. :)
jimcander
Jim Anderson 4
Tempe, AZ.... where good airlines go to die...
JD345
JD345 4
AA's MD-80s will make anything US has look brand new.
JD345
JD345 3
I think in a few years once United settles in to post-merger life, we'll see a new paint job rather their current Unitenental theme.
WyomingCowboy
J C Hancock 0
Maybe something refreshing for Unicon....a converse tennis shoe theme.....stars & bars.
chalet
chalet 2
And haven't you seen that the paint jobs are so old that you can make out the former owner´s logo like Allegheny (aka Agony) and Mohawk (Mou what!) and the beat goes on....LOL!
jmedina94
Julian Medina 2
LOL. The US Airways A319 I was on a couple of weeks ago still had the America West logo on the tail but the US Airways name on the side. According to the registration, it was delivered in 2005. But still why wouldn't they fully update the livery?
charlotte96
justin martin 3
The did that on purpose. if you have ever been to charlotte the have the alleghany scheme and the PSA scheme.
At6reo
At6reo 3
Because it's really American West. Not US Airways. It was just for name recognition .
At6reo
At6reo 2
Now those were the good ol days when those two flew. Loved the PSA smile .
mikem132
Mike Mandell 1
I kind of doubt they painted over the Mohawk DC-3's I flew on long ago.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
That baffles me some. America West (obviously in Tempe, AZ) not only didn't die, but under Bill Franke's and now Doug Parker's leadership has not only successfully surfaced from bankruptcy, but is doing so well it's pulled US Airways out of its troubles and is now moving on to do the same with American. I'm not being flippant, but rather pointing out my confusion as to why you would say Tempe is where good airlines go to die. Could you give me your thoughts, please? Thanks.
fulframe
Gary Hjelm 7
What would they call this new airline? Gooney Bird Air. Both airlines already have significant customer service problems, and neither airline is knocking the door down for their use of fuel efficient aircraft. It would seem to me that these problems would become catastrophic, if combined.
AccessAir
AccessAir 6
Thats never stopped any other airline mergers in the past....
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Do you know how many fuel efficient jets American has ordered?
tyketto
Brad Littlejohn 3
If this does go through, expect AWE to to leave *A.
jimcander
Jim Anderson 2
Per airffleets.net, AA has an average age of 14.6 and US is 12.9. The US 737's are older than the AA 80's but the AA 767's are ancient
charlotte96
justin martin 2
US Airways is not a bad airline to fly on. I prefer them over United and all these other airlines anyday. Only problem i have ever had on AWE is that i was late arriving to charlotte (my destination airport)and there were rude passengers on board
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JD345
JD345 2
US knows all about smooth mergers.
RobSJC
RobSJC 2
Exactally GLB, Honoring the heritage of each they have bought out in building their empire.
BenKFIT
Ben Lillie 2
Noooooo, all my childhood airlines are disappearing!!!
At6reo
At6reo 2
Bravo, this deal will help the hard working ,abuse taking employees from both airlines.
737MAX
Daniel Lehmann 2
I was on a US Airways flight when a call panel fell and hit a first class passenger, I don't think they got very good reviews that time.
jimcander
Jim Anderson 2
Theme livery. They have planes in hybrid PSA, Piedmont and AW liveries to "commemorate" the airlines that make up US
PhillyRick
Rick Womer 2
US can reach a deal with AA's unions, but it still can't reach deals with the pilots' or FAs' unions from the American West merger over 5 years ago. US is still operating two airlines, with separate planes, crews, contracts, and seniority lists: "east" from the pre-merger US Airways and "west" from America West.
SWEATINTHSWAMP
SWEATINTHSWAMP 2
There goes the next to the last of my favorites. Pan Am, Braniff, Continental, Mid-Continent, Trans Texas, Western, Eastern and TWA. Hang in their Alaska.

Everyone knows Delta of today is a 180 degrees from Delta of the 70's.
jimcander
Jim Anderson 2
I hear an echo....
jmedina94
Julian Medina 2
I flew with US Airways a couple of weeks ago and with all of the bad reviews I was shocked to get pretty good service. In terms of fleet, you can probably kiss those old MD-80s goodbye.
jimcander
Jim Anderson 2
Uh not really. Many of the AA MDs are Reno and TWA. Remember also US is primarily an Airbus fleet now. Most of the 737 (all I think) will be gone by the end of this year.
jmedina94
Julian Medina 2
I wonder if that's so they don't have to fork over the money to change the fleet wide livery. Lol.
jimcander
Jim Anderson 2
How true how true. Tempe is where good airlines go to die
fulframe
Gary Hjelm 1
You missed Western, one of my favorites.
SWEATINTHSWAMP
SWEATINTHSWAMP 1
That and a lot more.
JD345
JD345 1
Same here. I was hesitant about booking with US back in December based on all of the horrid reviews their service gets, but I was actually quite impressed and I'd fly with them again.
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Agreed. AA operates many old MD-80 aircraft. They have tons of new stuff ordered and optioned but this will take quite awhile. How do you place these huge orders and then declare bankruptcy?
SWEATINTHSWAMP
SWEATINTHSWAMP 1
It was right there between Trans Texas and Eastern :). My wife and I once won a trip on Western from Houston via Denver via L.A. to Honolulu. On the exact same reverse return we were the ONLY two passengers in coach between Denver and Houston. I guess that's why they expired :(. Those champaigne flights were very very nice.
jkarides96
Joseph Karides 2
I might die if I see an A319/320/321 in American colors...it isn't right. :P
justindpilot
justindpilot 5
You will, American has orders for A320 family..
BlutiG
Alexander Chiker 2
Indeed, they just ordered about 200 A320neo's and 200 737MAXXs.... god knows where the got the financing, bankrupt and all...
JD345
JD345 2
I wonder how many yuans those jets are gonna be worth.
chalet
chalet 1
Well better call your mortician now (just joking Mr. Kariatides)
jwms1013
jay williams 1
AWE didn't "take over" or "buy out" or "save" USAIRWAYS. It was a merger in the true sense. In fact, AIRWAYS brought the stability and operation that the Cactus management built on to be a competitive and operationally successful operation. The PHX operation is bolstered by the vibrant health of the East operation.
Who says that the AB fleet is not fuel efficient? Some posters are correct in saying that the 737 fleet at Cactus will disappear soon, to be replaced by new AB's coming as we speak. As one 737 goes, a brand new AB come in.
rmchambers
rmchambers 1
I just cannot imagine how absolutely awful the combined airline will be. I'm sure the distillation of the worst customer service of each company will be presented to the travelling public in some disgustingly rude espresso of service.
dmedders
David Medders 1
From a 2.4mm AAL flier -- DITTO :(
byrdflyr
Austin Byrd 1
American is the stronger brand, has more FFs, and will be the brand that survives. Same as when AW took over USAir. Pretty remarkable accomplishment, from a corporate perspective. Delta/NW learned a lot from how US and AW merged (what not to do). Now maybe the USAir unions and management will learn from the Delta/NW merger. It makes sense that United, AA and Delta will remain the big 3 for years to come. Alaska is next (probably combine with Delta, my guess).
skyddog
skyddog 1
Combining "US" and "American", seems like "USUS" or maybe we should just call it, "USSR" since that one is available now. Seems like the performance of the new company might match that of what they used to have in Soviet Land many years ago.

Just one more reason for me to be my own airline. Thanks to the major airlines for making General Aviation an affordable and desirable alternative. Might as well stop trying to accumulate or redeem "freeeky flier miles" now.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
I really feel for the AMR people. I was with the Piedmont Merger, and USAir really messed things up. Better luck to AMR
Beech33Pilot
Beech33Pilot 1
I remember well when US Air ruined Piedmont Air Lines.
rsantiago1221
Ryan Santiago 1
Well who knows this could be better for aa.... This could be the best time for them to sell all there md 80's and 81's and start replacing them with the airbus a319's 20's and 21's, American has an issue with not having the right aircrafts for smaller hubs... And they loose there business to American eagle... now with the airbus they can make into those smaller hubs rather then sending a 757-200 or a 737-900 with only half the flight full, that is why they are bleeding money and with the rising cost of fuel.. they are sending flights empty.. Who knows maybe this will be better then everyone thinks you have to rememeber that all those old aircrafts use so much fuel and take a lot more to keep them in service rather then newer airbus's and boeing aircrafts.


I would think this will pan out better... I currently work at ORD... I'm all for them teaming up with us airways
GLB62
GLB62 1
I believe the aircraft in question is intentionally painted in the old America West logo to honor the US Airways heritage. They also have aircraft painted in the former PSA as well as Allegheny and Piedmont logos.
jimcander
Jim Anderson 1
Interesting. I wouldnt mind that. I like the AA product over US. Also loathe the "Cactus" call sign for some irrational reason. Lol
RobSJC
RobSJC 1
Rumors are if it "goes through" .. Which it probably will ... AWE will slide in behind and it will all continue to operate as American Airlines.
jimcander
Jim Anderson 1
If they had only three planes I suppose that could be the reason.....
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Yes they did. That's because Piedmont was such a great airline that ANY other major would have ruined it.
jimcander
Jim Anderson 1
US AFA flight attendants just voted down a contract... I don't think the US pilots still have a contract, either. I just think a US/AA merger will be an unmitigated disaster. The fools in Tempe know how to run a LCC. They don't know how to run an international airline. I can just see Tempe trained people running the show in Hong Kong or Shanghi...
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Jim, pax could care less about the call sign. Most don't even know. Just us guys.
AWAAlum
AWAAlum 1
I used to work in AW Labor Relations, and just to clarify, where you say you don't think the pilots still have a contract ... the contracts don't expire - they become "amendable".
At6reo
At6reo 1
You are seeing that now with the continental and united merger(buy out). United doesn't know how to keep the former continental customers happy.
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Typically, the old contract just stays in place until a new one is hammered out. Management loves this and usually stalls as long as possible.
calbert
calbert 0
Boo :( No more murgers. American is fine like it is.
jppellegrino
jeffrey Pellegrino -3
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

Unions for US Airways, American Airlines sign merger agreement

Charlotte--US Airways took a huge step toward a merger with bankrupt American Airlines on Friday, as the carrier and American's three largest unions announced they have signed agreements for contract terms.


http://www2.journalnow.com/news/2012/apr/20/unions-for-us-airways-american-airlines-sign-merge-ar-2187626/?referer=http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=southwest+airlines+international+service&p1=%5bNewsVertical+SortByDate%3d%221%22%5d&FORM=YGNR&shorturl=http://bit.ly/IEkjc3
RobSJC
RobSJC -4
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

AA / US Merger Update

CBS News is reporting that U.S. Airways has filed papers to begin the process of taking over American Airlines. U.S. Airways CEO Doug Parker disputed an earlier CBS News report that an agreement between the two airlines on a merger had been reached.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/20/american-airlines-us-airways_n_1440232.html