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Kentucky Man Arrested After Shooting Down Drone; cites right to privacy

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Hillview, Kentucky resident William H. Merideth describes his weekend: "Sunday afternoon, the kids – my girls – were out on the back deck, and the neighbors were out in their yard. And they come in and said, 'Dad, there's a drone out here, flying over everybody's yard.'" Merideth grabbed his shotgun and waited to see if the drone crossed over his property. When it did, he took aim and shot it out of the sky. The owners showed up shortly, and the police right after.… (www.wdrb.com) More...

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scott8733
scott8733 6
....guess someone's Amazon order isn't getting delivered.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 14
I can't hover a helicopter over someone's back yard at 10' without permission. Helicopters have pilots and N#'s. I'd say a 12 gauge is appropriate for a pilotless, unregistered spy toy.
RobSJC
What happens if I take a slingshot and knock it out of the sky ? I certainly would have been doing something myself .. For legal authorized purposes .. GREAT .. but not for what it appears was being done .... I am behind this guy 5000 % .. a drone does not belong hovering over any ones yard, let alone a teen sun bathing, unless law enforcement are in control of it and only then, if they have a search warrant having been signed and served.
bbabis
bbabis 2
Good idea. The old wrist rocket with a pouch full of BBs probably would do the trick if the scattergun was out of the question.
bbabis
bbabis 3
I say good shot! I don't want one over my property either and would probably take the same measure.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
And you may be going to Jail as well.
bbabis
bbabis 1
I'm out in the country. Drone season lasts all year here and I probably wouldn't even get the first shot.
Bernie20910
Bernie20910 2
And no bag limit either
Bernie20910
Bernie20910 0
I'd like to buy that man a box of shells. Maybe two!
paviation07
sam kuminecz 3
What people aren't seeing is that the man was arrested for firing a shotgun in a neighborhood... Not for shooting down the drone
yr2012
matt jensen 3
The owner of drone should have been arrested for operating it in violation of FAA regs.
Moviela
Ric Wernicke 2
Privacy is not mentioned either in that pesky Constitution. We have determined through law that if you use a fire arm to damage the property of another, you are subject to incarceration. Teenage daughters aside, anyone who is on public property can look over your fence.

Common law (which our legal system draws from) describes property ownership as being from a point in the center of the Earth, extending upward through the property lines into outer space. Common law from the Middle Ages could not have known air transportation, so the legislature wades in and makes changes for the greater good of society. You property rights stop where aviation begins.

Unless your name is Putin, you cannot shoot down aircraft because you don't like it, and not expect to be punished. Your chance of prevailing in Court against those over flying your yard are going nowhere. You need privacy? Go inside and draw the curtain.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 2
Question is"Is it an aircraft?" If it is then it's flying illegally. If it's not then you can shoot it but you may have to buy it. This is where we test each other's mettle. Lol
RECOR10
RECOR10 2
Let there be no question, if someone was to fly one over my house it would "somehow" crash - even if I have to go Kamikaze with one of my many RC planes :-)
Bernie20910
Bernie20910 1
Speaking as an amateur radio operator, with many high power radios and very directional antennas at my disposal, it sure would be a shame if I were trying to bounce a signal off the moon and accidently brought down a drone flying over my property. All while legally enjoying my hobby of course.
helomech1
helomech1 1
Ric how about noise ordinances? Property right do not end where aviation begins, when I got my pilot license and was taught about avoiding certain areas and altitudes while flying. If is had been an R/C airplane would you still call it an aircraft and make a Putin joke? Firing a shot gun up straight up in the air that is loaded with game load shot shell isn't any more dangerous then throwing gravel up and letting them fall back down and hit some one. However because it's a "gun", people get all crazy about it
paviation07
sam kuminecz 1
as always there will be no concrete laws until something bad happens where people die
its sad but true...
sgbelverta
sharon bias 1
Until we get some federal guidelines with some teeth, dealing with minimum and maximum flying heights, and what controlled airspace is (fires, crime scenes, etc) we're going to have problems. This has got to be a federal standard. I'm all for states rights, but this can't be decided at a state level. I'm also not opposed to requiring transponders in the drones so they can be traced back to their human handler. Some sort of GPS in the drone might allow law enforcement to get to the handler in time before they leave. I really worry we're going to have a plane or helicopter crash because of a contact issue with a drone, then Congress will get all hyped up and pass law(s) that are written in the heat of battle so to speak, and not done with any input from aviation experts. That would be a 2nd disaster.
paviation07
sam kuminecz 1
use a bug zapper wand...I bet the electricity would do wonders to the drone
num1tailhooker
I cannot say it any better than Clement Roberts.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Criminal mischief 1st degree:
A person is guilty of criminal mischief in the first degree when, having no right to
do so or any reasonable ground to believe that he has such right, he intentionally or
wantonly defaces, destroys or damages any property causing pecuniary loss of
$1,000 or more.
http://www.lrc.ky.gov/Statutes/statute.aspx?id=19790


Wanton endangerment 1st degree:
A person is guilty of wanton endangerment in the first degree when, under
circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life, he
wantonly engages in conduct which creates a substantial danger of death or serious
physical injury to another person

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/statutes/statute.aspx?id=19734

So, did the shooter have, or believe he had, a right to shoot the drone?
Did his shoot-down create a danger to someone under the crashing drone?

Both are class D felonies, punishable by 1-5 years in prison.
Lawyers, start your billing clocks.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Oops, this was intended as a reply to post by sam kuminecz
RECOR10
RECOR10 -1
Reply order not withstanding - the person in most anyone's judgement was in the right to shoot the thing down. It is getting really nuts out there - for instance. A friend of mine owns a Gymnastics center. Someone had installed battery powered WiFi cameras in a girls bathroom and connected them to their public WiFi...this is a center with girls from 4 to 40...mostly young teens. The drones with cameras are not a far cry from that.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
See Tort: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/tort
Splitting hairs on who is at fault generates many billable hours.
Agree with you that drones are right down there with some lawyers.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
Could wanton endangerment could also be flying a drone near people on their back poarch?? Giving another lawyer some billable?
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
precisely, and don't forget the manufacturers of the drone, shotgun and ammo.
cessna337d
john Lumley 1
so if someone was about to kill him he should not shoot them BS the cause over rules that.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
I believe that case is covered by the rule prefer to be judged by 12 than carried by
Dl8698
David Loh 1
Get a very long pole. Fix a fly swatter to one end. Use same on drone. Drone downned. No arrest.
k9jd
Jd Young 1
A similar incident happened here in middle Tennessee recently. However, the guy didn't shoot it down. He did find out where the owners lived and the owner was arrested for trespassing.

http://newschannel5.video.jrn.com/Murfreesboro-Resident-Faces-Trespassing-Charges-Over-Drone-Use-29173976
Highflyer1950
Highflyer1950 0
to bad the authorities don't realize that low flying by a man made vehicle also poses a danger to the people on the ground. therefore, a minmum altitude law should be enacted for drones at the state level. you can't legally fly an aircraft below a certain altitude over a populated area (without permission) and a drone is just an unmanned aircraft. I can't condone shooting at a drone with a shotgun, however there should be some legal recourse available to the property owner.
crayanderson
C Anderson 1
If the man can demon$trate that he wa$ $omehow damaged, legal recour$e i$ already available and he $hould contact an attorney. On the other had if he'$ paranoid and delu$ional he may want to worry about loo$ing his firearm$ and he $hould contact an attorney. Lawyer$ love (love) this guy. $$$
btweston
btweston -3
Drones are getting out of control, but our gun fetish is way crazier.

Not happy about something? Fire off a few rounds and cry freedumz.
RECOR10
RECOR10 2
Drones were not mentioned a single time in that pesky Constitution thingy majig. Only the ignorant sheeple have an issue with Constitutional rights.
yr2012
matt jensen 0
The cops, again, arrested the wrong person.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 5
Pretty obvious the drone owner was lying. If he was taking pics of a friends house why was he hovering in the back yards of so many other people? He should have launched from the friends property and remained over same. LIAR.
sparkie624
sparkie624 -1
The idiot fired a gun into an area where people live... He needs to be held accountable... it is idiots like this that kill people and then call it an accident... He needs to be prosecuted to the fullest.
Bernie20910
Bernie20910 2
No, I disagree with you sir. He fired birdshot into the air, at a target in the air. The danger to anyone on the ground from such an act was just about nil. Neither the shot, nor the wad, have enough mass or energy left when coming back down to pose any significant danger. A shotgun with birdshot is the ideal tool for this kind of work.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
Mine is loaded and at the patio door. I normally use it on deer heading to my garden but I wouldn't pass up a good target of opportunity like a drone hovering over me pointing it's beady eye at me. Lol
dtw757
mike SUT 0
I would be more concerned about a 5 or 10 pound drone (quadcopter) coming down on my head from 50 or more feet, with at least 4 rotors spinning nylon propeller blades and causing slashing and impact damage on my 16 year child or my own body than I would some birdshot that has hit a target and is scattered. Seems under the Kentucky law quoted below,for wanton endangerment, the "drone" operator put other people in danger without their permission by flying it over their persons. Sounds like wanton disregard for safety and conduct that put the person who shot it down at risk of injury or even death by blunt force. Those lithium poly batteries aren't light and those blades are like spinning knives. The police should of, at a minimum also taken the drone operator into custody for violating the reckless endagerment statute.
helomech1
helomech1 0
Ric how about noise ordinances? Property right do not end where aviation begins, when I got my pilot license and was taught about avoiding certain areas and altitudes while flying. If is had been an R/C airplane would you still call it an aircraft and make a Putin joke? Firing a shot gun up straight up in the air that is loaded with game load shot shell isn't any more dangerous then throwing gravel up and letting them fall back down and hit some one. However because it's a "gun", people get all crazy about it.

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