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Skydiver jumps into stratosphere 24 miles over New Mexico

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An Austrian daredevil leapt into the stratosphere from a balloon hovering near the edge of space 24 miles (38 km) above Earth on Sunday, breaking as many as three world records including the highest skydive ever, project sponsors said. (www.msnbc.msn.com) More...

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mfcdvm
I think he should have had two parachutes; One for him and one for his testicles.
chalet
chalet 2
one for EACH ball.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 3
You're really getting excited now I see...
Derg
Roland Dent 1
No shame in lust!
jkudlick
He broke 3 world records: highest parachute jump, highest manned balloon flight, fastest free-fall. He was about 15 seconds from breaking the record for the longest free-fall, but his visor was fogging so he popped the chute rather than risk hitting the ground. The data gathered during his free-fall can help scientists learn how to recover astronauts during emergencies and for other purposes.
honzanl
honza nl 2
he never could hit the ground as he was fitted with an automatic chute-release to be activated at a certain altitude (to prevent he would hit the ground when he was out of control due to spinning, or when he was unconscious)
jkudlick
That's presuming it worked. Everything had gone well to that point, but I'd still rather pop my own chute than try to rely on an emergency chute.
dg1941
Damien Gehler 1
If I remember correctly, the proceedure for the shuttle was you could bail anywhere under 500,000 feet. Fortunatly, this was never used.
Donovan16
Don Thomson 2
My gawd, I can only imagine what he must have felt like, standing in the open doorway of the capsule, ready to dive back to earth with only a suit between himself and a damn harsh environment. That HAS to be the experience of a lifetime. Looked like he went into a pretty harrowing spin on the way down, as well. WOW ! My hat is off to him! Very Well Done, absolutely breathtaking !
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 2
have to admit that I was one of the naysayers.....Congratulations Mr. Bumgartner
lhstennis0955
Incredible to watch live online. Much credit and congratulations to him.
TheBunnie
Bunnie Meyer 1
I watched this live at the second he fell forward chills ran up and down my back and other parts of my body tightened up like I'd gotten an electric shock. That was one heck of a think to watch if you are totally panicked as I am at standing at the very edge of a floor to ceiling window in a very high building.

He's got more chutzpah than 99.99% if the people in the world.
rwb2112
rwb2112 1
That was incredible!
HunterTS4
Toby Sharp 1
but did he break the barrier?
USAFcptnShades
Bad. Ass.
debbiefawcett
I knew Col. Joe Kittinger back in the 80's when I was involved in the Gordon Bennett Balloon Race (long-distance helium) who, until now, held the record for the highest parachute jump - if memory serves it was 20 miles.
Say it ain't so, Joe! Your record has finally been broken. My hat is off to both of you gentlemen!
clabo
Yep, as I said right here on FA once before, he's got balls the size of grapefruits, at least.

I know that "vertigo-y" feeling when looking down from some height, but this wasn't looking down and seeing the ground, like jumping from a plane. This was looking down and seeing a *planet* below!

I wouldda gotten back in the capsule and told everyone I'd be riding that sucker back down. :D
flitton
Jay Flitton 1
Okay, I have a question. The balloon, being an aircraft in Class A airspace, carries a transponder. What about a jumper? So he jumps out while in Class E airspace, enters Class A at FL600. So did he have to squawk his own code?

Just wondering.
honzanl
honza nl 1
Funny: a drawing made by Felix Baumgartner when he was only 5 years old.....

http://nieuws.nl.msn.com/opmerkelijk/felix-baumgartner-vijf-jaar-oud
bigbill3111
bigbill3111 1
I wonder where the balloon and capsule wound up ? When I saw the view from his cam, I was in awe, literally STANDING on the edge of space. Amazing !
bear030702
Jacob Piasky 1
This guy was amazing. I can't believe he even attempted this. It's amazing the technolagy we have now. With the suits to help him with this jump.
ExCalbr
Victor Engel 3
At the temperature he was in, the speed of sound was likely lower, not higher, than 690 mph, as stated in the article.

-90F: 643mph
-80F: 651mph
-70F: 660mph
-60F: 668mph
-50F: 676mph
-40F: 685mph
-33F: 690mph

Do you think it was warmer than -33F when he crossed the sound barrier? I doubt it.
jkudlick
Possibly. While the lowest temperature he crossed through was about -80F (if I remember correctly), the temp at the altitude when he jumped was -1F.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
Thats way beyond what journos can handle.
abc123ucm
Initial numbers are indicating his max speed was MACH 1.24
DIRECTFLT
DIRECTFLT 1
Imagine if his ballon had carried him up in glider. To "glide" back down to terra firma . . . . Would've need some more oxygen and a heater, but one that is air powered, I suppose...
silverzdfltrack
Bob Ziehm 1
Last I heard, yes.
Derg
Roland Dent -1
Typical Austrian...an exhibitionist..Arnie Blackadder is the same.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
How so? Have you been hitting the wacky backy there mate???
Derg
Roland Dent 1
I smoke condor rubbed in my pipe. Dtandard tobacco. Haha I know the Austrians very well...hahah...I am one!

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jackson715
Jack Baas 12
That money was spend on, say, humane causes, like giving jobs and wages to the support staff, employees at the test facilities, manufacturing companies, etc. which all had a hand in this effort. It's not like they took $50 M and burned it.

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Derg
Roland Dent 5
That $50m becomes $50 after the local politicians, military and arms dealers have taken the madatory "cut". Name me some initiatives in the 3rd world that have been successful in helping people survive.
jkudlick
$50M really would not have done all that much to feed the world. You have to factor in the costs of purchasing the foodstuffs, exporting/importing and transporting them, paying off the warlords and tribal chiefs in the area (let's not kid ourselves that it doesn't happen), and finally distribution. You're probably talking about feeding a handful of villages for only a month or two.

If you want to rail about the frivolous spending of $50M, then rail about craptacular movies, 100-acre estates, and the like. $50M spent on a scientific endeavour is NOT money ill-spent.

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jkudlick
I have read the pleas, and don't tell me Clooney's really desperate for them - he's only been ringing that beel for a couple years. Those same pleas have been cried by various celebrities, governments, and NGAs for the better part of 30 years.

Billions upon billions of dollars have been spent trying to feed the victims of the famines, but corrupt governments (national and local) in that region either prevent food from getting where it needs to go or demand such exorbitant bribes that a great deal of money spent towards "feeding the hungry" goes toward padding their treasure chests. I say again - $50M would not go far, especially with today's food prices and economy.

I'm not claiming to have had any part in Baumgartner's jump, but Red Bull did not spend $50M and several years on this one thing as merely a publicity stunt. Plenty of data points were taken during ascent and descent, and you can be damn sure that it won't sit around in Red Bull's computers doing nothing.

I refuse to respond after this since this thread has bascially become derailed from celebrating a magnificent feat. There's plenty of other places to find larger amount of wasted spending. The capital cities of the world are great places to start looking...
nickpiszczek
Dearest Sweet Chalet., You know... honestly...take you're weeping for the starving children of Africa, their cats and dogs, motherless amputees in sweatshops and the cries for homeless transgendered diabetics elsewhere. Just a sorry sack of nothing. What a tremendous feat at the expense of no one, by an actually very bright group who unfortunately make a crappy beverage at that. By my estimation most of the people who enjoy this Flight Aware probably give enough and do enough for a lot of non-doers in this world and no one comes here to read nonsense...take it to the U.N's web site or the other two million corruptions clamoring to the heavens for money too provide for the unfortunate, creating an industry of money diffusion that could of put my mother on the moon for a walk. Nay Sayers are you're folks and there is a place for you and your friends, Those who bust ass to do something radically interesting, creative and worthwhile would prefer to be left in peace,..Good luck on planet Earth. Citizens of this country give more to others then most nations combined. Please.
nickpiszczek
As a point of fact; American citizens gave almost 300 Billion Dollars to charitable organizations last year alone. What a private "Foreign" Company does with their money is their business. If part of their business is paying for fellas to jump from high altitude balloons...What a wonderful world it truly is.
chalet
chalet 1
Indeed America has to be commended on such largesse. Now how much of the $ 300 billion is tax deductible. If you liked this high altitude jump, why don't you try yourself.
nickpiszczek
Tell ya what..why don't you admit to a really dumb, severly unrelatable comment on an aviation based forum... own up to it and stop digging it deeper. As far as me Jumping? I would have gone out the door toot sweet had someone asked me. Nothing would please me more then to be invoved with something so sufficiently more valuable and important to be worth one's time, effort, and interest,.I repeat; Find the proper forum for your outrage. I am regretful myself for even wasting the time and energy on this post and dragging it of into a heap of silliness, further detracting from the acompishment.
chalet
chalet 1
If you don't like my comments, you know damn well what to do to yourself, or not
chalet
chalet 1
Derg
Roland Dent 0
I think you raise valid criticism about how capitalism accrues wealth and how it ivests the excess. Red Bull spends a lot of money on marketing with "cool" high profile activities..yes I see your agument very well Chalet...I do not disagree that a change in mindset would help humanity.
clabo
Ummm, don't feed the trolls, and they'll goway soon enough, hopefully.

I take chalet's comment along the lines of, "Why did you buy yourself a fancy car/house/stereo/etc., when there so many starving people in the world?".

Answer: It's *my* bux to spend as I please.

Bravo to Red Bull (I agree, it's a vile drink, but hey...), and uber-kudos to Fearless Felix.
Derg
Roland Dent 4
I agree totally with your argument chalet but I ask you to consider this. The technology here under test will enable us to better survive and control our fragile planet. The more security we have up there the more GOOD work we can do to help the 3/5 who are starving. The science involved is pysiological interaction with extremely hostile atmospheres. Far from being a stunt. Do you personally have any scientific training chalet? Have passed the basic military aircrew survivability test in water and on land?
chalet
chalet -2
I got a B.S. degree in Civil Engineering, a Masters in Mechanical Engineering specializin in cryogenic compression systems, power generation systems (hydraulic, gas and steam turbine generating systems) plus Management courses plus a couple hundred hours in SE aircraft. Basic military aircrew survaival tests are old hat since they were instituted back in the late 40s and 50s so there was absolutely nothing to be learned from this brave I must admit Austrian's stunt other than his suit was not aerodynamically designed to go supersonic without tumbling like a small toy (I feared that he was going to kick the bucket that moment).
bigbill3111
bigbill3111 2
Amazing how many people I have encountered in my life that have the credentials and "book learning", and yet the common sense of a duck.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
Hahaha..85% fence sitters...5% yes men...5% diamonds...hahah...always has been this way..always will be.
chalet
chalet 1
Such as yourself?
Derg
Roland Dent 1
OK Chalets lets go for a throttle up here. Love your black type..great to see a lady in MY world! I you are not a lady I beg your pardon, and if you are a transvestite that's fine by me. I too am a "softy boots" but all I could control when I was working was the safety of my staff and anyone else (the public) who happened to be at risk...nowadays there is a lot of environmental stuff which was not at all covered back when I was trained (early 1970s). As you know well when we design stuff in the western world we build in a margin for the unexpected and these days this is all done mainly by software. Wunnerful right?..yes! Now as the army engineers anywhere in the contemporary mid east war zone will tell you that on day one they will buld a water feed and drainage system for the local community and overnight all the hardware will be stolen and they have to start all over again. What you perhaps do not realise because our western news service keeps all the nasty daily stuff away from us is the carnage that occures out there..I mean body parts and human matter sprayed all over the place including your working tools like the modern equivalent of a theodolite and GPS linked stuff. Then there are the hazards of malaria, dysentry and a whole bunch of other nasty health stuff. Working in these places has advantages WE LEARN. When the shuttle blew up a few years ago on launch a lot was kept away from the public. In every disaster like the oil accident in the Gulf a lot was kept away from the public. A lot is LEARNED by the people involved. This exercise was controlled learning and if you as an engineer cannot see that you are a disgrace to your profession. It takes BALLS Chalet and a brain.
chalet
chalet 2
Frankly I don't understand a word you are saying nor where you are heading.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
I am trying to give you some idea of what happens around the world..the way we see and understand things as a group of people from the western world is not the same as those in the 2nd or third world. 165m people were legally murderd in the last century mostly by "civilsed" opposing powers. If you take your qualifications and use them in a third world country you will find that rarely will you be able to use your skills as you did in the West. The rules are not the same...the SOCIAL rules are not the same...that is what I want you to be aware of..they don't teach you this in lecture halls in MIT.
chalet
chalet -4
Roland you might think for a moment that I am sort of a "backward looking person" but while indeed a lot of money collected for those pour souls end up in the pockets of some ..... (I can no use certain choice words) but the reality is that there are some 70 million children, mostly in Africa and some Arab countries that are on the verge of dying due to total lack of nourishment while this and other expeditions to outer space costing zillions of dollars go straight to the bottom line of "defense contractors". And it is not only in those countries that there is a lot of suffering, a few million people inside Conus live well below the poverty line.
barrysnel
Barry Nel 2
Chalet. I, as an African used to working in some of these areas to which you refer, would suggest that you rather write to the United Nations who, in the name of charity and assistance, waste MILLIONS a year in these countries on their overblown and top heavy overhead costs. Money which should be used for the very causes you mention above.
chalet
chalet 1
You are 100% right, it is just too bad that THE institution that was created to foster peace and equality around the world has not been able to manage such an important matter as the proper and efficient distribution of food to people starving. Perhaps the solution might be to put in charge of this to Care or Caritas, or perhaps the Mormon Church, would you agree.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
I agree Barry.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
Chalet I have every respect for you. If you personally want to help then get a job with a company who provides water services.. Many people do not realise that most of the squabbles that lesd to violence in the mid east are over water.
DIRECTFLT
DIRECTFLT 1
SO . . . BTY, did you know that the NFL is a non-profit league ?? Clooney -- he does it for you ??
bishops90
Brian Bishop 4
Old friend you can spend your $50 mil however you'd like and we won't criticize you one bit for it, deal?
captainjman
Jason Feldman 3
Chalet - the sad part of your hijacking this thread is that people such as myself waste time on you. You love attention, we get it.

The mention of George Clooney asking for the 50M to go to charity... how much money is he worth? He should sell his home, his belongings, get rid of ALL his money, and live in squander before he tells another person how to spend their money....

And how much are you worth? Do you live in a one bedroom apartment that you share with 5 families so that every penny you don't need to survive goes to feed the hungry around the world?

There are many films made for entertainment only that cost more than the 50M it cost to do this jump, should they too have saved their money and just fed the hungry around the world? OF COURSE NOT, after all they have to pay their stars like CLOONEY millions to show up and pretend to be someone they are not.

Just as you don't see movies that don't interest you, just skip this spectacle and move on.
Do you demand that all movies that you don't like, stop production and donate their money to feed the world?
who died and left you in charge of what can and cant be done for entertainment?
why do you get to choose what is worthy and not?

Maybe you don't see movies, I can accept that... but what about shopping malls, or cruise ships, or aircraft? Do you not use any of these things? Do you think none of us should have or do anything until we feed the poor?

I am requesting that you stop hijacking threads so that you get the attention that you crave. I don't care if they collected data, saved the whales, or fed all of africa - not everything has to be about donation of food and money. There is a time and place for that... why would you even think this was the place to do this?

As stated elsewhere - the US and its citizens already donate more than any other nation both in gross and per capita .... and yes, most of it is lost to the organizations themselves who make a profit from their cause - doesn't that outrage you at all? that they make so much money using their cause as a money making scheme? Why don't you go on the threads for those organizations and demand change there. If they stopped leeching so much money for themselves - millions would have been saved. There's your evil... not some guy doing something completely unrelated.

And as another post said - those dollars went to people working on the project, and companies that employ people to make things, and advertising, and newspaper sales.... this jump did more for the poor jobless in this country than your comments have done.


ON A DIFFERENT NOTE:

As for the jump - I don't know much about it, I didn't watch it YET, but didn't a guy in the 60's break the sound barrier while free falling from a balloon?
bigbill3111
bigbill3111 2
If you are going to spend the money there, spend it on sterilization so there will be NO hungry children. I don't like the starving kids, BUT I don't care where it is, even in the good old USA, if you can't feed your kids, don't have them.

I don't know if Red Bull is a charitable organization or not, but it's their money to spend as they see fit. This was an amazing feat and for a few moments our minds could dwell on something besides political crap.
silverzdfltrack
Bob Ziehm -2
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Redbull Skydiver Preps for Jump

Felix Baumgartner has been given the go-ahead Saturday night by meteorologists to make his record-breaking, death-defying jump early Sunday in New Mexico.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/10/13/redbull-skydiver-preps-for-jump.html
silverzdfltrack
Bob Ziehm -2
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Filling the ballon

They're filling the ballon. Green to go so far. 23 miles to jump point - UP

http://www.redbullstratos.com/live/
silverzdfltrack
Bob Ziehm -2
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

He Did It - Free Falling

Baddest Austrian since Schwarzeneger (sp) made it!!

http://t.co/17X1xjPT
silverzdfltrack
Bob Ziehm -1
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How To Watch Live! - Felix Baumgartner’s supersonic freefall from 120,000 ft will be the ultimate scientific experiment in a near-space environment.

Red Bull Stratos, a mission to the edge of space, will attempt to transcend human limits that have existed for 50 years. Supported by a team of experts Felix Baumgartner plans to ascend to 120,000 feet in a stratospheric balloon and make a freefall jump rushing toward earth at supersonic speeds before parachuting to the ground. His attempt to dare atmospheric limits holds the potential to provide valuable medical and scientific research data for future pioneers.

http://www.redbullstratos.com/live
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
One big difference between him and Ahnold, he didn't use stunt doubles.
Well, there are several others too, but this one should suffice.